Abramovic, Podesta, Clinton And Easily Explainable Conspiracies

I want to talk about a polarizing figure, Marina Abramovic. If you’ve never heard of her, don’t feel bad. Many had not until around 2016. According to the ever insightful Wikipedia, “Her work explores body art, endurance art and feminist art, the relationship between the performer and audience, the limits of the body, and the possibilities of the mind.”1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Abramovi%C4%87

What I find noteworthy about her is the ease with which many journalists defend her and are quick to paint detractors as right-wing nut job conspiracy theorists. While they readily admit that her spirit cooking ceremonies are odd and possibly off putting to some, there’s really nothing to report because it is simply, as one writer put it, “weird, but art is like that sometimes.” 2https://www.dailydot.com/debug/podesta-spirit-cooking-email-wikileaks/

I think there is more to it than “weird art.” More on that in a minute. I am also drawn to the fact that she seems to be well acquainted with some powerful figures. For example, a Wikileaks email dump revealed Abramovic hosted a spirit cooking ceremony/dinner where Tony Podesta and quite possibly his brother, John, were in attendance. Now, The Ministry of Truth provides a clear, simple explanation. It was a fund-raising event. Full stop. End of story. 

One opinion writer concedes that the Wikileaks email dumps, which contained thousands of emails of Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager, John Podesta “revealed a reference”3https://news.artnet.com/opinion/marina-abramovic-new-world-order-explainer-1838223  to a spirit cooking dinner. It goes on to say that, “the email was from John’s brother, Tony, who had supported a Kickstarter campaign for the artist’s now-aborted Marina Abramovic Institute in Hudson, New York. One of the prizes for a large donation was a ‘Spirit Cooking’ dinner.”4https://news.artnet.com/opinion/marina-abramovic-new-world-order-explainer-1838223

Side note. In this same article quoted above, the writer also takes great pains to attempt to discredit the documentary “Out of Shadows,” which should be viewed and explored by anyone who seeks to know more about the hidden spiritual nature of Hollywood.

Another opinion writer offers more evidence that there just isn’t much to see here, through the fact checking site Snopes . Think what you will about it, there is ample evidence such as this site, this one  or even this one that sheds light on who funds these folks, and what motivation or bias they may have to shade the truth or possibly debunk it with their own version. 

So which is it? Does this artist follow the teachings of occultists like Crowley and actively conduct his rituals to summon entities? Or is it all for show? The Ministry of Truth concludes, it’s all for show. It’s art.

Abramovic’s art draws on a lot of references from different rituals because she is looking for whatever instrument works to fascinate—but it’s generally their superficial magnetism and not their deeper systems of meaning that interest her. (For that matter, contemporary “Satanists” generally do not believe in a supernatural Devil but are just theatrical atheists trying to get a rise out of an overbearing Christian fundamentalism.) 5https://news.artnet.com/opinion/marina-abramovic-new-world-order-explainer-1838223

So is Marina’s Spirit Cooking just for show? Is it all a gag to “get a rise out of an overbearing Christian fundamentalism?” Perhaps. Or, maybe there’s a bit more going on than some people care to admit or do not want exposed in the light. 

Whatever conclusion you draw, the fact that it’s so out in the open, as are many aspects of evil, is undeniable. I only cited three articles, but do your own search and see how many there are that debunk the notion that Abramovic is involved in anything nefarious. Whenever I see so much space given to the “give me a break” side of an argument, complete with bemused chuckles, I can’t help but think, “thou dost protest too much.” I then wonder, why worry if it’s so incredibly ridiculous? Their predictability is astounding. But I suppose if it works, why change.

Author and researcher, Dr. Tom Horn discussed this topic in an episode of Daystar’s Joni Table Talk. Here’s how he framed it.

Dr. Tom Horn appeared on Daystar’s Joni Table Talk in the Rising Darkness series. In this brief excerpt, he discusses some background to spirit cooking related to Aliester Crowley and his activities. He also touches on the Podesta emails released by Wikileaks.6source: https://daystar.tv/player/33567/380277

If you watch the video excerpt, you see that he references a particular Podesta email where he sends a photo of himself holding his hands up, and drawn on them is the number 14 and a fish. Horn’s explanation centers on occult understanding of the myth of Osiris. But of course everyone knows that this is just another case of connecting dots that do not exist. 

Myth of Osiris or Global Goals?

To be fair, there is another, quite plausible explanation. The simple explanation is that on September 25, 2015 , John Podesta tweeted a series of tweets in support of the Global Goals organization. Global Goals promotes 17 Sustainable Global Goals adopted by the UN, with Sept 25 being the day they were formally adopted.

In Podesta’s tweet, he is professing support for #14 Life Below Water – “Conserve and sustainably use the oceans, seas and marine resources for sustainable development.”

Podesta’s emails were posted on Wikileaks, and included an exchange with the person who actually posted the tweet, his assistant Milia Fisher. There was a minor exchange about the wording . The email contained the image to be posted and so was included in the Wikileaks data.

Very cut and dry right? Easily explained just like the spirit cooking dinner as a fund-raiser. It all boils down to the conspiracy nuts making something from nothing. Perhaps. But it is interesting to note that those involved in such behavior are known to use code words, and to hide in plain sight their intent and symbols.

Factor in the other email mentions of “nearing official disclosure” and discussing aliens not from our universe but from a “contiguous dimension,” and it starts getting very curious. According to Horn, at one point, someone within the Pentagon, “sent a warning note that these topics they are talking about [contiguous aliens] are quickly devolving into poltergeist activity, the paranormal, communicating with the dead, and communicating with demons.” Still, all the possible innuendo or symbolism hidden in plain sight is nothing more than conjecture. 

Were the Podesta brothers in Portugal?

There is another interesting aspect, however. In an article from 2016 concerning the 2007 disappearance of Madeleine McCann, “police sketches of two suspects believed to be involved in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, that took place in Portugal on May 3rd, 2007, … depict what appears to be a drawing of the Podesta brothers, but at the time, could not be further substantiated… until now. 7https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/podesta-brothers-revealed/

What makes the story intriguing is that according to the article, “John and Tony Podesta were in Praia da Luz,  Portugal on May 3rd, 2007– the day Madeleine McCann vanished,” and that “The Podesta brothers were staying with a friend named Clement Freud, the grandson of psychopathology sex expert Dr. Sigmund Freud, who was known to be a pedophile.”

Clement Freud was not in Portugal at the time, and there is no hard evidence linking the Podesta brothers to McCann’s disappearance. But when you start adding up all the “explainable coincidences” they begin to look more suspicious.

But as with most things the super powerful elite are suspected of that might be nefarious, there is very little “hard evidence” one can point to as surety. This one might fall into the kook fringe category, but given the things that people like Ted Gunderson have uncovered regarding the CIA’s involvement in the Finders, it would not be surprising to learn it is real. I suspect, however, it may not be until the Lord’s judgment that what is hidden becomes revealed.

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Jay Dyer

  • Jay Dyer is an author, comedian and TV presenter known for his deep analysis of Hollywood, geopolitics, and culture. His graduate work focused on psychological warfare and film and he is the author of two books, Esoteric Hollywood 1 & 2 and the co-creator and co-host of the television show Hollywood Decoded. He has been featured on numerous popular shows and podcasts and in debates with some of the world’s top debaters.

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